Brahma, Vishnu and Shiv are Perishable: With Proof

What are the three Gunas (Qualities)? With proof

“All three Gunas are Rajgun Brahma ji, Satgun Vishnu ji, Tamgun Shiva ji.” They are born of Brahma (Kaal) and Prakriti (Durga) and all three are perishable.”

First Proof

Sri Shiva Mahapuran published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur, whose editor is Sri Hanuman Prasad Poddar, Page no. 110 Chapter  9 Rudra Samhita “Thus Brahma-Vishnu and Shiva are inbuilt with three Gunas, but Shiva (Brahma-Kaal) is said to be Guna (Quality less).

Second Proof

Shrimad Devi Bhagwat Purana published by Geeta Press Gorakhpur, which is edited by Sri Hanuman Prasad Poddar Chiman Lal Goswami, 3rd Skanda, Chapter 5 Page 123: –

Lord Vishnu praised Durga: said that I (Vishnu), Brahma and Shankar exist by your grace. We have avarbhava (birth) and tirobhava (death). We are not eternal (imperishable). You are eternal, you are the mother of the world, you are the Goddess of Nature.

Shree Shiv (Shankar) Ji said: If Shree Brahma and Shree Vishnu were born from you, then myself Shankar, is not your child? i.e. you are also the one who produces me. Your qualities are forever in the creation and the destruction of this world. We, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiv(Shankar), born of these three Gunas (qualities), perform the work according to the law by yours.

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This description above is only from Sri Devi Mahapuran translated into Hindi, in which some facts are hidden. Therefore, see the same proof, Shri Maddevi Bhagwat Mahapuran, Khemraj Shri Krishna Das publication Mumbai, has Hindi translation with Sanskrit.

3^rd Skanda Chapter 4 Page 10, Verse 42: –

ब्रह्मा – अहम् महेश्वरः फिल ते प्रभावात्सर्वे वयं जनि युता न यदा तू नित्याः, के अन्ये सुराः शतमख प्रमुखाः च नित्या नित्या त्वमेव जननी प्रकृतिः पुराणा (42)।

English Translation
(Vishnu said) O mother! Brahma, I and Shiva are born with your influence, we are not eternal, that is, we are not imperishable, and then how can other gods be eternal. You are imperishable, you are the mother of all, the mother who produces us, and you are the nature and the goddess of eternal beauty. (42)

Page 11-12, Chapter 5, Verse 8: –

यदि दयार्द्रमना न सदांऽबिके कथमहं विहितः च तमोगुणः कमलजश्च रजोगुणसंभवः सुविहितः किमु सत्वगुणों हरिः।(8)

English Translation

Shree Shiv (Shankar) said: Oh mother! If you are kind to us, why made me Tamo guna, why did Brahma born from lotus make Rajo guna and why did Vishnu made Satgun? That is, why did you put us in the misdeeds of birth and death of organisms?

Verse 12: –

रमयसे स्वपतिं पुरुषं सदा तव गतिं न हि विह विद्म शिवे (12)

English Translation

You are always indulging in pleasures with your husband who is Kaal God. Nobody knows your speed.

Third Skanda Page 14, Chapter 5 Verse 43: –

एकमेवा द्वितीयं यत् ब्रह्म वेदा वदंति वै। सा किं त्वम् वाऽप्यसौ वा किं संदेहं विनिवर्तय (43)

English Translation

Which is unique in the Vedas is called only a complete Brahm, is it you or someone else? Eliminate my doubts. On Brahma Ji’s prayer, the goddess said :-

देव्युवाच सदैकत्वं न भेदोऽस्ति सर्वदैव ममास्य च।। योऽसौ साऽहमहं योऽसौ भेदोऽस्ति मतिविभ्रमात्।।2।। आवयोरंतरं सूक्ष्मं यो वेद मतिमान्हि सः।। विमुक्तः स तू संसारान्मुच्यते नात्रा संशयः।।3।।

English Translation

The goddess said: – This is who I am, Who is that is me, this is the difference due to the confusion. The subtle difference between the two of us, who knows it, is the elementary, no doubt. he is free from separation of the world.

सुमरणाद्दर्शनं तुभ्यं दास्येऽहं विषमे स्थिते।। स्वर्तव्याऽहं सदा देवाः परमात्मा सनातनः।।80।। उभयोः सुमरणादेव कार्यसिद्धिर संशयम् ।।ब्रह्मोवाच।।इत्युक्त्वा विससर्जास्मान्द त्त्वा शक्तीः सुसंस्कृतान् ।।81।। विष्णवेऽथ महालक्ष्मी महाकालीं शिवाय च।। महासरस्वतीं मह्यं स्थानात्तस्माद्विसर्जिताः।।82।।

In the presence of suffering, I will present before you only from remembrance. Gods! Always remember me with the power of God, Sanatan Dev. 80. Summarization of both will surely bring success.  Brahmaji said, by gracing and left us with power and Mahalakshmi for Vishnu, Mahakali for Shiva, and gave us Mahasaraswati.

मम चैव शरीरं वै सूत्रमित्याभिधीयते।। स्थूलं शरीरं वक्ष्यामि ब्रह्मणः परमात्मनः।।83।।

English Translation

My body is called illusion form, God is called the gross body of Brahma. 83.

“Summary of the above Purana sentences”

It became crystal clear that Shree Brahma ji is Rajo Guna, Shree Vishnu ji is Sat Guna and Shree Shiva ji is Tamo Guna. All three gods are perishable and they are born and died. Durga is also called Prakriti. Durga’s husband is Brahm (Kshar Purush / Kaal). She keeps on dealing with him. Both Durga and Brahma are shaped in a gross body.

The same proof is in Gita Chapter 14 verses 3 to 5. Brahma (Kshar Purush / Kaal), the speaker of Gita knowledge, is saying that Prakriti (Durga) is my wife. I place the seed in her yoni (place of conception), from which all beings originate. I am the father of all (beings of twenty-one universe) and nature (Durga / Ashtangi) is the mother of all.

All the three Gunas (qualities)  (Rajo Guna Brahma, Sato Guna Vishnu and Tamo Guna  Shiva) originating from this Durga (Prakriti / Ashtangi) bind other beings to the bondage of deeds.

Who is saint Rampal Ji Maharaj?

In this prime time Saint Rampla Ji Maharaj is only one true complete guru who can explore the true paths for salvation. Rest the norms and values are useless and never provide benefits.  Human life is very rare; one shouldn’t spoil for gathering the dolls like vehicles and other assets.

Contributing this life for making prosperous is a kind of illusion enforced by Jyoti Niranjan Kaal with his three son (Rajogun brahma, SatoGun Vishnu and TammoGun Shiv) including his better half Aadi Maya Astangi (Durga/Prakriti/Maya).

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